You weren't babbling at all! It made plenty of sense. And your explanation for the amped-up physicality (pushing, shoving, hauling, etc.) is just about what the director and writers would have said, and did say (in the director commentaries). It wouldn't be dramatic if Faramir were as noble and well-behaved as the Faramir in the book, they said, so they portrayed him as more threatening and unpredictable.
I said in a comment up there somewhere that most of these departures still worked for me as film-story, it just wasn't Tolkien. My pet peeves, apart from damaging departures, resulting in radically out-of-character behaviour, tended to be about inconsistencies. If Faramir wanted to send the Ring to his Father, why go to the trouble of sending Frodo, too? Or how did Sam get the Ring on its chain over Frodo's head and neck before the Orcs showed up (in the pass of Cirith Ungol) if Frodo's entire head and neck was covered in cobwebs? -- and was so still when the Orcs carried his body away? And how come when Frodo woke up in CU, with his hands bound, his head half-shrouded in cobwebs, it was cobweb-free when Sam entered the room? In the Go Home Sam scene, Gollum sprinkled lembas crumbs all over the back of Sam's elven cloak as he slept, yet when it came time for the confrontation, Sam either had no crumbs, or had them on the front of his clothes, where Gollum had *not* sprinkled them. (Well, with a whole year between shooting Frodo and Sam's coverage of the scene, and with Gollum not cast at all at the time, no wonder they had some problems.)
I complained about these sorts of things on a thread and was rightly admonished for straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel. Who cared about the crumbs on his jacketses, lol, when Frodo was sending Sam home, for heaven's sake--and Sam was actually complying!?!
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Date: 2007-04-15 03:08 am (UTC)I said in a comment up there somewhere that most of these departures still worked for me as film-story, it just wasn't Tolkien. My pet peeves, apart from damaging departures, resulting in radically out-of-character behaviour, tended to be about inconsistencies. If Faramir wanted to send the Ring to his Father, why go to the trouble of sending Frodo, too? Or how did Sam get the Ring on its chain over Frodo's head and neck before the Orcs showed up (in the pass of Cirith Ungol) if Frodo's entire head and neck was covered in cobwebs? -- and was so still when the Orcs carried his body away? And how come when Frodo woke up in CU, with his hands bound, his head half-shrouded in cobwebs, it was cobweb-free when Sam entered the room? In the Go Home Sam scene, Gollum sprinkled lembas crumbs all over the back of Sam's elven cloak as he slept, yet when it came time for the confrontation, Sam either had no crumbs, or had them on the front of his clothes, where Gollum had *not* sprinkled them. (Well, with a whole year between shooting Frodo and Sam's coverage of the scene, and with Gollum not cast at all at the time, no wonder they had some problems.)
I complained about these sorts of things on a thread and was rightly admonished for straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel. Who cared about the crumbs on his jacketses, lol, when Frodo was sending Sam home, for heaven's sake--and Sam was actually complying!?!