Since posting my new "Frodo Art Travesty" manip...

Frodo and the Enamoured Woman (detail below), one of the Tolkien friends with whom I correspond, jan-u-wine, was inspired to write a poem to go with it. She is a writer of very perceptive, very fine LotR poetry (a link to her works appears below her poem).







What she wrote for this manip was so evocative to me of what might have transpired in the mind of Frodo when faced with the spectacle of such love for him in the face of another, I decided to edit it into my entry.

Here it is....


The Fields of Forever by jan-u-wine


The warm-cool curve of her throat rests upon my shoulder,

tender pulse
racing and fluttering like the wings
of some wild and frighted bird,

though
her eyes are calm
and sure

and sorrowfully certain

(as if she held some great truth
untold,

untellable,
within).

And I feel
caught

unawares,

as though there were more
to my nakedness

than a simple lack of clothes,
more that rises within

than that without.

Almost
I welcome
the familar sharp definition
of the cliff-face at my back,

the chill counterpoint of rock
holding me on the edge of a dreme.

I wanted.......

I wanted
to smile

as her nose brushed mine

I wanted.......

I wanted to
laugh

at the sweet absurdity of the gesture,
at the curious

intimacy of it.

I wanted.....

oh,
I wanted to know
(above all, I desire to know)


why
her eyes were sad with a wanting of their own

how
in all the wide Circle of the World

she chanced upon me
(or we, upon each other),

who she should be
and

where she might call home......

I wanted.....

I want
to know

what
the summer-crushed-berry
of her mouth tastes like

and the feel of her hands,
running

like water

like silksmooth moonlit water
upon me

and mine -

answering,

answering
until

there can be no more questions,

only
the gentling of my name upon her lips

as if it were the only word the moon and stars
and sun

had need of or would ever know.

She is settling the rich darkness of her garment about her again,
though

her unbound hair still mingles with mine,
the scent and feel and aching-sweet sense of
her

echoing and singing within me.

And we fall into sleep, thus:

arms and legs twined to and twixt,
a warm puzzle of limbs
(gently tired by loving),

eyes speaking all which there are no words for
until

perforce
sleep closes them.

And that last moment of waking
falls

into the first moment of dreme,

her eyes holding me more-so
than ever hands could do,

until
I am walking within the startling fields of them

and dreme upon
forever.




~ Frodo and the Enamoured Woman:









~ Jan-u-wine's Lord of the Rings-based poetry is featured at LotR Scrapbook.



~ Mechtild



View Frodo Art Travesties Table of LJ Entries page HERE.

View Frodo Art Travesties Album HERE.



From: [identity profile] lame-pegasus.livejournal.com


Thank you, Mechtild. What a wonderful, insightful, brilliant poem. Absolutely marvelous.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Thank you, Mona, for commenting. I will relay it to jan, who is not an LJ user.

From: [identity profile] pearlette.livejournal.com


This is a beautiful, beautiful poem ... exquisitely written and so deeply felt. This is real love she's describing. Applied to Frodo, who so needed healing in his soul, it's absolutely wonderful ... But you can also apply this lovely poem to RL love, which gives it an extra resonance. This is real ... that's what I love about it. And applied to Frodo ... *swoons dead away*

That gorgeous manip of yours works wonders!

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Pearl! Isn't it beyond lovely? The poem, I mean. Although it's beauty is sort of related to the image -- as with her poem's two lovers, the image and words sort of make love together, like, "arms and legs twined to and twixt, a warm puzzle of limbs."

I am not really that much for poetry, Pearl. Normally, I much prefer writers to say what they want to say using prose. But this poem is one of the exceptions. I feel as though she has expressed Frodo's mind and heart with an intimacy that prose seems unsuited to, but which poetry suits perfectly.

If prose had to express these things for Frodo, it might make him seem too self-conscious, too "stagey," to say such deep and beautiful things, a hobbit of the Shire (even if he is Iorhael). But the beauty of verse is like that of opera: what would be too intense -- too much if spoken, seems perfectly natural, even inevitably "right" when sung. An ordinary seamstress like Mimi or a down-on-his-luck poet like Rudolpho in La Boheme can sing what they could never say. When they sing their Act I duet, it is as if their hearts and souls are soaring up to the heavens (and into hearers' hearts). It would never work that way if they spoke those same lines.

I feel as though jan-u-wine's poem is like that. If Frodo had inner dialogue to go with this manip in a prose scene, he might marvel to himself over his good fortune to have won her love, thinking what a topping lass she was and how dashed lucky he was to get her. But, expressed in poetry his thoughts can express what is in his heart and mind and soul with a height of expression and a depth and weight of feeling that prose simply cannot convey.

When I looked at this image and read jan-u-wine's poem, I thought, "Why have I been bothering to write a story about Frodo in love? She has shown more of Frodo in love in this slender column of verse than I have conveyed in twelve fat chapters."

*sob*

I really, really love this poem. I am so glad I made the manip, if only to have inspired it.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


If Frodo had inner dialogue to go with this manip in a prose scene, he might marvel to himself over his good fortune to have won her love, thinking what a topping lass she was and how dashed lucky he was to get her.

Can't edit my comment, so I want to underscore that I was overdoing it to make a point. Of course Frodo could do better inner dialogue than that! :D

P.S. Yes, the poem does indeed beautifully convey love, as such.

From: [identity profile] julchen11.livejournal.com


What a wonderful poem and an amazing picture. So beautiful and intense. Both of them.
Thank you Mechthild for sharing :-)

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Thank you, Julchen, for commenting. I really must send jan-u-wine a link, to let her know it is posted here. She really does really fine work expressing Frodo in a way that "feels" like Frodo in the book, I think.

From: [identity profile] lembas-junkie.livejournal.com


Le Sigh! :)

I didn't read through the whole poem, I just wanted you to know I loved your manip. So nice! *brushes Frodo's cheek softly*

Lembas :)

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Hi, Lembas! Yes, it is a beautiful manip, maybe the best I've ever done. We talked about what a great source picture it was in my previous entry, which presented the manip itself. The poem is just gorgeous. As I said to Pearl at length above, I have only a slight appreciation of poetry in general, but when it works for me it really works. This one really works.

I read in Ariel's LJ that you are finishing up exams. Best of luck, Lembas! I know you'll do fine.

From: [identity profile] aredhelebenesse.livejournal.com


This is both amazing! The painting as well as the poem! I could feel what I read. Something like dreaming and falling asleep. When the voices in head become louder than the noises around.
These are great works!
Thank you so much for sharing!

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


That is high praise, Aredhelebenesse. I do hope the author of the poem will be stopping by to read all this. Thank you so much for commenting.

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


I wish I had words that would say how wonderful that poem is, but I'm just not good enough, so I'll say...beautiful. That was just so beautiful! It goes perfectly with your wonderful picture and it really described the picture and love so well!

And, my eyes are just about popping out of my head because I've just found the link to your other pictures you've made!! OMG! They look so fantastic I'm going now to save a copy of every single one to my computer!! :D

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Your words are more than adequate, Starlit Woods. I note your choice of icon, too.

The poem really does "open up" the picture, don't you think? And her word image of Frodo's inner workings is so book-like to me.

You found the Frodo Art Travesties? Oh, I am pleased. I loved making them. You will see they have progressed from the simplest cut-and-paste's (when I was just learning) to more subtly-done things like this one. Film-Frodo's face is so classically beautiful, I felt just *compelled* to see how he would look in various periods of art. Thank heaven he is so lovely, or the cruder efforts would not be worth looking at.

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


I would love to have someone look at me the way those two are looking, and the beautiful way it is described in the poem :)

I LOVED your manips! You did such an amazing job! I love artwork by the old Masters, my brother always had books lying around the house and we'd talk about which ones we like the best (though he knows heaps more about it than I do!) and I really loved seeing you turn those works of art into new works of art! I was so excited seeing each one! I was like "Ooh! Frodo in a Bouguereau!!" :D You get better and better with each one and I really can't wait to see more :)

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


I would love to have someone look at me the way those two are looking, and the beautiful way it is described in the poem :)

Would not we all? I think it was Pearlette up there who said the poem not only well-expressed Frodo if he had loved, but the heart of anyone who truly loved. The poem is art because while it perfectly applies to its specific case (Frodo and the mystery person he loves), it is applicable beyond itself.

THanks for the compliments, Starlit Woods. I don't know how many more I'll do. I keep saying, "That's my last one." Simply because I don't find that many likely source paintings that would work well for various reasons (face in bad position, body a poor match, not a large enough copy of the image, etc.). But everytime I think, "Well, that's that," an image (like this Sheila Metzner art photograph) will just turn up on its own and I'll say, "Wow, I have to do it!"

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


Pearlette is right, the poem is wonderful in relation to Frodo and even if you take it out of context and relate it to love in general. There's nothing like love, so many words and paintings and songs, but nothing describes what it's really like to love and be loved.

You can't stop doing pictures now when I've only just discovered you!! Not that I'm trying to talk you into anything but *cough* http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/livtyler/homere-bouguereau.jpg *cough* A little Frodo might fit in there nicely! Please, feed my addiction! ;)

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


The link says that's a Bouguereau. Is it really??? Actually, that painting already looks like Frodo so much (he's even nearly to scale, had he swigged a few litres of Entdraft), it doesn't need manipping. Do you know the topic of the painting? Gandalf would do very well in it, too. I thought it was Abraham walking with Isaac at first, but then who would the people be at the back? Or is it young Samuel and Eli? Or some other characters all together?

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


Yes it is a Bouguereau, it's a picture of Homer and his guide. It really could do excellently as a Frodo/Gandalf picture couldn't it?! I'm about to go off to bed, but I found a beautiful Hi Res version of it for you :)

http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=1416&hires=1

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Thanks for that link, Starlit Woods. I will think about it. Because Frodo would appear as a child in this image, not an adult, it is not the sort of thing I would normally do. I do tend to chose paintings, whether there are of two people relating or just a man by himself, which make images in which film-Frodo is portrayed as the object of desire (for me and for other besotted fans). If I made this into a manip, I might swoon for the manip created, but not Frodo in it. Do you know what I mean? I suppose it could be a whole new series, though: "Gen Art Travesty Frodo," LOL.

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


LOL I do understand, it would be a bit hard to perve on Frodo when he's too young! I hope you really do keep making more pictures though, you're really wonderful at it! :D

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com

Re: Perfection


Este, lamby! I have been hoping you were going to drop by and see this, since you are a keen appreciator of poetry. I have looked through a lot of jan-u-wine's Frodo poetry, all of it high-quality and much of it very moving and provocative, and I see that she has done very little (none?) other poetry that speaks of love. She did write and email me a saucy poem to go with the Frodo as Bacchus standing around nude with the bored Ariadne (the Reni painting). I posted it (with her permission) in a comment box, but I am not sure anyone saw it, since it came at the end of the string.

Take a look and see what you think. I'll get a link to that entry and you can scroll down and take a look at it.

http://mechtild.livejournal.com/17563.html#cutid1

It's down there on Dec. 30, called "Fair Remembrance".

Maybe I should repost the poem in its own entry? I'd have to ask her if that was OK, though, since she doesn't see herself as a writer of erotic or romantic poetry. I thought it was great, though.

From: [identity profile] este-tangletoes.livejournal.com

Perfection


Thank you Mechtild for creating that beautiful image – which I like to name ‘Love not Lust’, which in turn inspired such soul-searing words by jan-u-wine. I’ve already book-marked the list of jan-u-wine’s poetry and wept buckets over her ‘No Child of my Body’.

This LJ entry -Poem by jan-u-wine, inspired by "Frodo and the Enamoured Woman"....- is now resting cosily in my LJ-memories.

Thank you also for the link to the saucy poem ;-) I read it in January and saved it in my ‘Poetry I love’ file. I hope that jan-u-wine will overlook the fact that I did not ask her permission to do so first *blush * but I do not re-post anything that I have saved for my own private enjoyment.

Reposting "Fair Remembrance" would be good. I’d like to read the responses of other readers.



From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com

Re: Perfection


Oooh! An icon of that woman's dolls! The one whose work you linked in the Harem.

I don't think I've read "No Child of My Body." I will HAVE to go read it.

So you think re-posting "Fair Remembrance" would do well? I could do the same thing: post a detail from the manip, along with a link to the full image and original entry (which had all the info. on Reni and a link to the original painting).

I don't think the fans who write poetry get nearly the attention they deserve. If jan-u-wine were writing prose/fics as good as her poems, readers would be all over them.

From: [identity profile] este-tangletoes.livejournal.com

Re: Perfection


I could do the same thing: post a detail from the manip, along with a link to the full image and original entry (which had all the info. on Reni and a link to the original painting).

Good idea - it cuts down the to-ing and Fro-ing. :D

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com

Re: Perfection


I just read "No Child of My Body." Oh, to die for. *weeps copiously*

Now, THAT's a great portrayal of what Frodo might feel holding Elanor. I confess it's very like the sorts of things I had picturing him feeling, and had planned a scene late in the story of him holding Elanor and thinking such things, but it was going to be from Rosamunda's POV, so the reader would have to intuit this line of thought by the way he held and looked (or could not look) at her.

From: [identity profile] este-tangletoes.livejournal.com


I just read "No Child of My Body." Oh, to die for. *weeps copiously*

Yes it is such a tear-jerker – That will remain with me for all-time.

I thank you for giving me a hint of how your lovely story ‘Threshold’ might develop. Gowsh! I love that tale.


From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


I thank you for giving me a hint of how your lovely story ‘Threshold’ might develop. Gowsh! I love that tale.

I'm still working on it, you know, although I have been massively resistant about it for some reason. Thanks for continuing to be so supportive about it, Este. I have really, really appreciated it.
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