~ detail from "Frodo in His Study"



My "new" Frodo manip is actually a re-do, but a re-do from the ground up....


Recently, looking for a different work, I found a much better copy of the painting I used for my first version of this manip, Portrait of a Young Gentleman Reading (or, "Portrait of a Gentleman in his Study"), by Lorenzo Lotto. Goaded by its clarity, I made my own screencap of the image from FotR (Amon Hen) I had found on an internet gallery and used for the face last year, and re-did the manip.

I credit this to a fan of the manips who liked the first version of this particular Frodo Art Travesty so well, I wondered if I could improve upon it. The version I first did, which she saw, never fully pleased me because it was so small and murky, although it had its own charm. (It can be seen here.) I did not take it down from the Photobucket gallery, however, because it really does look like a different manip. The copy of the painting I made it from is so different (in colour values and in resolution), it makes the finished manip different, and I sort of like them both.

Below is the part of Tolkien's text that inspired me to make this manip in the first place, from the last chapter of The Return of the King, "The Grey Havens"....


One evening Sam came into the study and found his master looking very strange. He was very pale and his eyes seemed to see things far away.

‘What’s the matter, Mr. Frodo?’ said Sam.

‘I am wounded,’ he answered, ‘wounded; it will never really heal.’

But then he got up, and the turn seemed to pass, and he was quite himself the next day. It was not until afterwards that Sam recalled that the date was October the sixth. Two years before on that day it was dark in the dell under Weathertop.




~ "Portait of a Gentleman in His Study," by Lorenzo Lotto, c. 1527:



~ Mechtild



Frodo Art Travesties Table of LJ Entries page HERE.

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From: [identity profile] elasg.livejournal.com



A brilliant combination - Again, you have done yourself proud!

However.... I am not entirely pleased with the throat... Would you mind if I offered a suggestion?

From: [identity profile] elasg.livejournal.com


LOL! Actually, I am lengthening his throat and matching the shading on his neck to the shading on his face... I'm doing it now and will send it to you.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Really? Kewl! I'll be up a little longer tonight. Just don't beat me if I end up going, "but I liiiiike his neck pale," and, "It's supposed to be scrunched dow," or some whiny thing or other. I'm just thrilled to see you in here, Ariel. *smooch*

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Ariel, I just wanted you to know, you bloody bothersome thing, your critique made me stare at my manip --and stare and stare and stare. Finally I threw up my hands and opened it back up to work on.

I followed your advice to start: I cut off the head again, extended the neck and added more shadow. But the main thing I did was notice that I had inadvertently slightly widened Frodo's cut-out face image when I was colour-correcting it the first time, which made his face ever so slightly distorted - flattened from top to bottom.

I am wondering if that isn't what you saw, in actuality, because I think it made a subtle but strong difference, once I replaced it with a cut-out that was correct -- even without any neck adjustments. I had been thinking the screencap slightly "froggy-looking," though I couldn't think why, looking from a window with the cap open to the finished manip.

See what you think. (The "new" model is in place above.)

From: [identity profile] elasg.livejournal.com


Better. Did you get the copy I sent? I emailed it to you last night right after I told you I would.

From: [identity profile] elasg.livejournal.com


Yes, it improves the picture to actually believable proportions, though you might want to shade the right side of his neck too. Look where the light is coming from on the face and match that on the neck.


From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Oh, that's good, Ariel! I had doggedly followed the lighting plan on the Lotto's original neck, but you are right: the face of Frodo in the manip had shadows where the original face didn't. I will work on that!

I did not see your manip last night, but I opened it just now. You sent it to my old email address which I never use anymore because of its unreliability when I am returning messages.

My more recent email address is mechtild1@gmail.com. You sent it to the chartermi.net address.

Again, thanks so much!!!!

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Oh, thanks so much, Art Travesty Beta!!!!! I just re-did the right side of the neck, plus blending in a tiny bit of light for the larynx area, then re-blending, and adding a few dots for texture and I am soooo much happier with the final product! You are wonderful. If you hadn't made that first criticism, I never would have bothered to fix it but would have remained slightly unhappy with it, that "something" nagging me forever (especially the squatty-featured effect made by the accidental distorting).

*huge smooches*!!!!!!!!

~ Mechtild

From: [identity profile] elasg.livejournal.com


*smoochies back*

I feel a WHOLE lot more comfortable betaing art, something I actually know, than writing. I always feel self-conscious suggesting something having to do with stories because, quite frankly, I was a product of US schools and while I am more literate than most of my fellows, I have no illusions that I am a master of my own language. Drawing, on the other hand, I am better than most (though not all) at and feel confident that, even if you don't take a suggestion, I am not steering you wrong. ;)

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Nope, you were RIGHT ON THE MONEY (shading, lengthening, proportioning). *MWAH*!!!!

From: [identity profile] whiteling.livejournal.com


Again, *great* work, Mechtild and great teamwork, Mechtild and Ariel *waves*.
Frodo in Italian Renaissance's attire (dark and sliced) never fails to send me in altered states of ecstasy.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Ah, Whiteling, what a thrill and pleasure to see your non-anonymous, lovely-icon-graced comment! I love the Renaissance, period, Italian and Northern, and the costumes are super. It was just before the clothing got terribly stiff and extreme, as in the Elizabethan period in another half century. The clothes were very formal, but followed a more natural line. They had the ruffed collar, but just the suggestion of it. Not the huge lion clown ruffs to come. Those had their own appeal, but as "fashion art" rather than as clothing to be worn.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Whiteling, I hope you don't mind, but in answer to Este's post below, I had a fit of happiness over your new status and posted a couple of your drawings in a comment box without asking. Let me know if I have the titles wrong and I'll change them.

From: [identity profile] whiteling.livejournal.com


No, of course I don't mind.
Heavens, you are throwing huge confetti!

Thanks for the welcome :-)!

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


That part of the story makes me sad for every soldier that ever went to war :(

Beautiful artwork Mechtild! I love both versions too, as you said they are different enough to look like two different pictures and I really love them both! Great work!

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Thanks Starlit Woods! You are generous to come in and comment at this late hour. (Well, maybe it's the morning where you are, ey?)

From: [identity profile] starlit-woods.livejournal.com


It's afternoon here, but any time of the day or night is a good time to come and look at your beautiful work :)

From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com


Oh, my that's so beautiful. The colors are so rich. I compared this one and the previous one, and it's quite a difference. And the quote fits so well. I wished they had kept closer to the book dialogue there in the movie.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Me, too. They made Frodo seem to have a slight shoulder twinge in the film, rather than anything like his full-blown anniversary illness. This was another thing that made book virgins wonder why the heck he felt he had to sail off into the West. Couldn't he have taken a couple of Ibuprofen?

From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com


Yes, exactly. I watched part of the movie yesterday on Starz or one of those stations, and they did a marvelous job with the make up and lighting and Elijah was wonderful there, you could see that something was very wrong, but the dialogue just didn't do enough to explain why he was so sick and why he had to leave ME. I find I always want more when I watch the movies, even though I believe they're wonderful and as good as most anybody could have done. I just wanted them to make us realize what the quest had done to him. ah well, we do have fanfic for that.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


I find I always want more when I watch the movies, even though I believe they're wonderful and as good as most anybody could have done. I just wanted them to make us realize what the quest had done to him.

I am not faulting EW's job in the scene, they just didn't direct even what they had in a way that let viewers know the degree to which he was still suffering. They would not even have had to change the lines. They could have shown him at his desk really suffering a stab of pain, maybe with an infinitesimal flash from Weathertop to remind folks without a word what he was suffering from(they'd used this device well before, outside Minas Morgul - "I can feel his blade"), show him reacting with the full strength of that, just for an extra second or two or real time before he hears someone coming. They could start out with his make-up not quite so pale so that he could be seen to blanch. That would take another split second. Then they would show a shot of him quickly and heroically pulling himself together before Sam comes in. They they could show Sam do the slightest reaction shot, showing that he sensed something amiss instead of just blithely strolling to the desk and beginning to speak, only then marginally noticing something and asking if Frodo is all right. In real time, these changes would have taken perhaps footage running to the count of ten seconds. I think it would have been a huge help to viewers and greatly enriched the "plight of returning wounded" thread of the film's story.

But, like you, I really did love the films and still do. It's just one of the faults I felt, "Aw, too bad!" about, as a sort of missed opportunity for a really easy fix that would have accomplished so much.

From: [identity profile] mews1945.livejournal.com


You're right, it really wouldn't have taken a lot of time to enrich that scene so much.

From: [identity profile] mariole.livejournal.com


I really like this one, Mechtild. You're right, it does look like a different manip. I like the canted angle to the head, and the coloring is so different. When I first saw it, I shouted, "Darcy!" Some of these paintings just remind me of him. :)

Cool to see Ariel's suggestions, also.

From: [identity profile] mariole.livejournal.com


Yes, that's certainly the classic Darcy portrait. But this new one reminded me of that lovely character as well. Two great characters, for the price of one. *happy sigh* Cheers!

From: [identity profile] not-alone.livejournal.com


Oh Mechtild ~ that is so beautiful. I can get some idea from the discussion between you & Ariel just how much work & concentration it takes to produce something like this and the result is just breathtaking.

Also, I do agree with you & Mews about that scene in the film - I'm certain that anyone who hadn't read the books would be at a loss to understand exactly why Frodo was leaving.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Also, I do agree with you & Mews about that scene in the film - I'm certain that anyone who hadn't read the books would be at a loss to understand exactly why Frodo was leaving.

Alas, I think it only contributes more of the sense that film-Frodo is an awfully fragile, sensitive little thing, blown about by every wind and prey to every emotional crisis.

They were doing a poll of film fans of "favourite hobbit;" Frodo was beat out by Sam (huge winner), and even Merry. *sob*

Again, it's not like I don't love film-Frodo, I do. But, remember, whenever I watch the films, the whole while my mind is "filling in" material about Frodo from the book, while I watch. I never see film-Frodo any other way.

Even if the film skipped over the Barrow scene, or Frodo talking ably and wisely (like a fellow prince) with the Lord Faramir, or if it failed to show the extent of his nobility and the depth of his mercy in the scene with Saruman in the Scouring, I am thinking all those things as I watch -- as if all that actually was filmed but is somewhere on the cutting room floor, LOL.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Oh, thank you for such a sensitive comment, Este.

OT, did you see [livejournal.com profile] whiteling's comment up there? She did it! She joined LJ! I must post a drawing in celebration! I just recently posted some others, so I'll post this favourite....

"This is Sting," by Whiteling:




And I simply must post a big version of your icon, since that has become my favourite of all her drawings I've seen. Funny, too, since it isn't of Frodo!

"Este the Gentle," by Whiteling:




From: [identity profile] taerie.livejournal.com


That's why I never really noticed the slights to Frodo in the movie.. cause my mind was busily filling in the details. LOL about the ibuprofen!
If they did a poll of only book fans.. Frodo would do much better I think. Poor Frodo! Not appropriately appreciated in his home town and now not properly understood and appreciated by the masses in our own world where you think he would get a little justification!

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


Hi, Taerie! It's a pleasure to see you and your gorgeous icon.

If they did a poll of only book fans.. Frodo would do much better I think.

I am sure you are right. Although, I think if all readers were polled, Sam would still be preferred to Frodo. Many readers revere and respect Frodo for what he did and who he was, but their affection often resides in Sam, who is more "homey" and accessible as a character, besides being tremendously brave and faithful, two virtues that are difficult not to love.
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From: [identity profile] ink-gypsy.livejournal.com


These are wonderful, not a travesty among them. I'd say you've created new masterpieces.

From: [identity profile] mechtild.livejournal.com


"Masterpieces"? Well, I've been given a leg up by the Masters.

Thank you very much, Ink Gypsy!
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